Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Authentic paper cartridges for reenacting, living history, and live fire muzzleloader. Muzzleloading supplies, black powder supplies, muzzleloading. Lo and behold, it worked well and i got very good accuracy. After all, a paper patch is just a very thin sabot. Not only is this the best 100yard group i have shot with this rifle, shooting a traditionally styled bore. If youre interested in hunting with muzzleloading rifles you have, no doubt, read the ads espousing the extreme performance capabilities of the high velocity. If you reserve paper patched bullets for hunting and sighting in, they will. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman, cva, traditions, tc, pyrodex, blackhorn 209, and many more.
Muzzleloading info pine ridge black powder custom side. Paper patched bullets were used in some early cartridges, though i dont fully understand why. Jun 28, 2015 this video is kind of the part two to the video shooting and field cleaning a traditional muzzleloader. Grease grooves base guards production knurling big slugs power press diamond knurl nose shapes. Combustible cartridges are paper cartridges that use paper treated with oxidizers to allow them to burn. Ive been using maxiballs lately, but i want to try paper patching hornady xtp. I prefer to use paper patched bullets simply because they are easier to handle. If you want to shoot a cast bullet in a muzzleloader you need a barrel cut 12 thousandths deep. Paper patched bullet design software is available from corbin, as well as software that calculates multiple density, multipart bullet weights and volumes, calculates bullet air resistance and bc, and helps you determine the bullet diameter for a given rifling depth and paper thickness. A high density, 100% wool felt wad, lubricated with all day wonder lube, that will take the place of the over powder and cushion wad. Having said that, even if your barrel is choked somehow and the balls are oversized, i dont see that being the issue with it getting stuck unless you are using projectiles made. Distributors of black powder muzzle loader and cartridge loading firearms, accessories, kits, cannons, and conversion cylinders. These cartridges consisted of a paper cylinder or cone containing the bullet, gunpowder, and, in some cases, a primer or a lubricating and antifouling agent. Bullets for black powder cartridges track of the wolf.
Mdm has teamed up with magkor, the producer of black mag 3, a. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience. Here is a video i did on paper patching bullets for muzzleloaders. I am shooting paper patch bullets with both smokeless and black powder. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. Pittman bullets high performance muzzleloading powder tubes 5ml and 10ml powder storage tubes for muzzleloader powder charges. Will likely work for other black powder rounds as well but im not sure. After you get paul matthews book go online and look for bruin bullets paper patch book. Black powder a mechanical mixture of 75% potassium nitrate salt peter, 1011% sulfur and 1415 % charcoal by weight or a black powder substitute such as pyrodex. It was up to the individual to acquire a mold close to the bore, and supplement the diameter to the bore.
Shooting a 90grain charge of goex ffg black powder and the crossstrip paper patched pedersoli cast 478grain. Paco kellys leverguns community index forums general discussion. Antifreeze and water is a very good solution to clean black powder barrels. Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder.
Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. If you are shooting black powder, the patched bullet should be bore size, using the black powder charge to slug the bullet up to fill. A paper cartridge is one of various types of small arms ammunition used before the advent of the metallic cartridge. Whether you have a sharps, rollingblock, or a hawkin, all can be loaded using the paper patch method. Lube grooves add drag to a bullet, so for better long range bc the smooth sided, paper patched bullet is technically. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. Are you thinking of paper patching for blackpowder or smokeless. Jul 18, 2018 muzzleloaders used for deer and bear hunting must be at least. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder, black powder substitute, or smokeless powder, and would like more of an understanding about ppb cartridges and real black powder. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with.
Granular loose black powder and black powder substitutes are the only legal propellants during muzzleloaderonly seasons and 600 series hunts where there is a weapon restriction of shotgunmuzzleloader only or archerymuzzleloader only. Paper patch bullets shop paper patch bullets at buffalo. Pittman bullets high performance muzzleloading shooting. Be sure to read the entire article and view all pictures before trying to make the. Black powder bullets and sabots for modern and traditional rifles.
Felt wads for muzzle loading and black powder cartridges. Muzzleloader rate of twist chart muzzleloading bullets. I was doing great with that gun so i decided to try my luck with my 50 cal. Shooting suppliesover 12,000 shooting supplies, black powder. The only true way to determine best bullet weight is to shoot your gun with quality sights off a. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Jul 10, 2008 if you are shooting black powder, the patched bullet should be bore size, using the black powder charge to slug the bullet up to fill. I wanted to share my success with paper patched muzzleloader bullets for deer.
New lube for black powder rifles american shooting journal. I can sit in front of the tv, watch a program and load up 50 to 100 rather quickly. Black powder for some, the rottenegg stench of blackpowder smoke is the sweet smell of muzzleloading. Jan 26, 2020 pittman bullets high performance muzzleloading powder tubes 5ml and 10ml powder storage tubes for muzzleloader powder charges. This article will instruct you on how to roll blank paper cartridges for. Use a thin card over powder, to protect the base of the bullet. For black powder basics dixie gun works used to sell a very good soft cover book which was primarily for black powder shooters. The sizes for black powder cartridge rifles are different.
Shooting a paperpatched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle. The paper patched 400grain bullets were loaded over 75 grains of the olde eynsford 2fg, a thin milk carton wad over the powder, a 316 grease cookie of vigilante lube and then a walters. Paper patching the hunting bullet for a muzzleloader. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. I would start by slugging the barrel and verifying that the diameter of your bullets is around. Light for the caliber bullets will work in fast twist barrels but we dont say. Muzzleloader projectiles muzzleloader bullets for sale. Shop black powder bullets and sabots at great prices and selection. Sep 25, 2017 how to roll paper cartridges reenacting. Explore the verity of trusted brands like cva, hornady, traditions, thompson center and more.
Havent tried paper patched muzzle loading bullets, other than a cross patch in a friends bench gun. Heavy charges of black powder require additional lubricant under the bullet a grease cookie. Will this work with a hard jacket bullet or must i cast my own with. Paper patched bullets for hunting modern muzzleloader. May 17, 2016 myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. I find 8 thousandths deep works well for paper patched bullets, but is too iffy for cast bullets. In conclusion, i stil plan to shoot paper patched bullets for fun, especially bench type long rang range shooting where i can take the time to swab good between shots, i will especially be shooting the baco. I started to paper patch for my 45 cal tc renegade. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. Where i learned that i cant remember, but it works. Most of these were paper type cartridges that the soldier tore open with his teeth, then dumped the powder down the muzzle, followed by the bullet and, usually, the paper that wrapped the unit. I knew these slip fit bullets would move off the powder as i have tested this long ago with all of my barrels.
Lubrication for black powder guns is an entirely different story. Old south firearms is family owned and operated and we are very knowledgeable concerning our products. Register log in home forums elk hunting black powder elk load. Forums user list calendar active threads forum help. A mixture of sulfur, charcoal, and saltpeter, black powder comes in different granule sizes. Does anyone here paper patch muzzle loader bullets. Lubrication for black powder guns business and bullets. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. The fouling from firing black powder will turn into gritty crud in the presence of petroleum based lubricants. Jun 16, 2017 shooting a paper patched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle. And, just like the difference between greasegroove bullets and paperpatched bullets, the reason for lubrication while shooting muzzleloaders is still the same, to keep the fouling soft for following shots.
Dedicated to the modern muzzleloading hunting enthusiast. Paper patching traditional lead conical muzzleloader bullets. If youre going to have a mould made, or buy custom swaging equipment, buy some premade paper patch bullets from buffalo arms,for example, or someone else, so you are sure to get the right size prior to ordering your mould or swaging equipment. We ran around with powder horns and fur hats, preaching the virtues of oddball things like cows knees, english flints and wasps nest wadding. I made up some wrapped in tracing paper, and some with adhesive labels.
Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. These give a dense shot pattern and increased range, without the need for wet fiber wad. Jun 21, 2006 black powder for some, the rottenegg stench of blackpowder smoke is the sweet smell of muzzleloading. And, just like the difference between greasegroove bullets and paper patched bullets, the reason for lubrication while shooting muzzleloaders is still the same, to keep the fouling soft for following shots. Paper patching for muzzleloaders video modern muzzleloader. Bullets up to 550 grs are fairly standard for the barrel so heavier is available. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. It has 4 sets of sights, barrel sight 100 yds tang sight 200 yds. I paper patched a variety of 9mm and 38357 bullets. We live in a town that has deep country roots and values, with a passion for the outdoors. Loaded in this fashion, with a grease ball and lubed paper, you should be able to shoot 10 shots and push all the fouling out the muzzel with one dry patch. Now a black powder cartridge rifle is a horse of a different color. Is paper patching real for making bullets untraceable.
Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. It is a tc renegade with a stainless steel green mountain barrel with a 128 twist. The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Paper cartridges are also in use today by many black powder enthusiasts. Jul 06, 2017 lubrication for black powder guns is an entirely different story.
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When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine. If i can get the wife to watch the kids for a while, ill try to launch. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. It easily betters the long range performance of the hard kicking. This video is kind of the part two to the video shooting and field cleaning a traditional muzzleloader. We have the bullets you need for modern and traditional blackpowder. For black powder cartridge shooters today, we almost always use lube with the bullets in. The 50 i wanted to try to patch for was a gun i put together for my son. However, in order to get a sufficient amount of powder into.
I decided to try my larger paper patch bullet with black powder. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. Muzzleloader rate of twist chart this chart will help you select the bullet weight which is most likely to result in the best accuracy. The latest upgrade of the packaged reload is one from millennium designed muzzleloaders. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. It seems that whenever i read anything about black powder, cast bullets are being used. Black powder bulletsmuzzleloading bullets buffalo arms. Another advantage is that it uses much less powder for similar long range energies, loads lot faster and kicks a whole bunch less as well. Is there some reason jacketed bullets shouldnt be used, or is it just convention. Those of us who loaded patched round balls instead of conical bullets were forced to hunt hard, get close and make that one shot count. Swaged paper patched bullets are both more precise and easier and faster to make than cast paper patch bullets, since one stroke completes the bullet at exact diameter, and there is no lead to melt if one uses lead wire. I powder coat most of my bullets but would not see the need for muzzle loaders of any kind.
Super great black powdermuzzleloader bullets, muzzleloader parts, muzzleloader supplies and great deals a great fair priced place to stock up on all your muzzleloader bullets, accessories and specialty products from precision rifle, barnes, thompson center, hornady, knight, cva, caldwell, remington 700 ml and ruger 7750. The above discussion centres on cast and paper patched bullets, both of. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders. Paper patching muzzle loader bullets alaska outdoors forums. Shooting suppliesover 12,000 shooting supplies, black. For black powder cartridge shooters today, we almost always use lube with the bullets in our loads. Schmittzer bullets have a pointed spitzer nose, for least drag at long range. If you want more than one box, please check quantity above.
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